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@ratkosrb ratkosrb commented May 10, 2025

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Using Korrak's Revenge event data to restore the original AV spawns that were removed in later vanilla patches.

Todo / Checklist

  • Respawn Creatures
  • Respawn GameObjects
  • Assign correct patch to everything
  • Add missing scripts

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Daribon commented May 12, 2025

Since there is just so much things to consider here , I'm gonna start writing down some notes (mainly for myself.)

From this PR:
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The stable at SH bunker currently has stabled rams spawned. They should not be pre spawned.
I think the reason they are currently spawned is because original korrak sniffs, someone had turned in rams up in north which apparently does cause them to spawn even at SH bunker. The later korrak sniffs from SL which doesn't stable rams in dun baldar, does not have rams at SH bunker.

In regards to ram stable in Dun Baldar, seems like it's supposed to have ram spawn outside the building too:
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Image from 7th February 2006.


Missing flags at Winterhax Hold when Snowfall Graveyard is captured:
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Found in korrak revenge SL sniffs, not found in the original korrak revenge sniffs.


Weird object's all around Drek'thar and Vanndar in sniffs:
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Image from classic sniffs. They seem to be unused objets. Are they pre spawned?
I can't remember seeing it being spawned before or is something that just happens to spawn upon Drek or Vanndars death?


Blizz seems to have messed up graveyard objects in Korrak's Revenge. They do not match 1.5.0 screenshots.
Confirmed wrong thus far is IB GY, SP GY, FW GY, SH GY
From this PR and in korrak sniffs sniff:
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FW GY:
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565 - ZBAY9

SH GY:
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Dated 20th of July 2005.
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6 September 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLfK6v4ATw0
Video from 27 06 2005

IB GY:
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Unknown exact date, somewhere between 1.5.0 and 1.8.0. Graveyard flag not seen here it exists in korrange revenge sniffs or in 1.12.1.
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Unknown exact date, somewhere between 1.5.0 and 1.8.0. Graveyard flag not seen here it exists in korrange revenge sniffs or in 1.12.1.
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Unknown exact date, somewhere between 1.5.0 and 1.8.0. Shows the old location of IB gy flag.

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I found this old screenshot, from blizz pre-release AV. Seems to display Stronghoof more near mid, it's possible he used to be there when graveyard was closer to mid.


Missing NPCs that do not exist in any sniff, not even korraks revenge.

South bunker with a bunch of NPCs:
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https://youtu.be/nUyqdbm7zho?si=vmYPy1MjoIRlcWSS&t=105
Druid pulling Dardosh, whith two additional melee guards around flag. Closed sides, so at least patch 1.8+.
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Image from the above video.

Dun Baldar North bunker with melee guards inside:
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Unknown video, but was from after patch 1.8.0.

West Frostwolf Tower with melee guards inside:
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Screenshot from this video:
https://youtu.be/P6644EITQwg?si=r5--lW8g3WN7fFYN&t=43

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East Frostwolf Tower with melee guards showing. Dated October 30 2005.

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East and West Frostwolf Tower with melee guards. Unknown date.

NPCs around TP:
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Dated 15 June 2005.
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Unknown date.
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Pre-release patch 1.5.0.
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Pre-release patch 1.5.0. Does match from later release vanilla: https://youtu.be/uYYYbZ51O8A?si=T0YPDJoT8BOD5XOt&t=670
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Blizz image pre-release patch 1.5.0.

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Unknown horde tower pre-release 1.5.0.

NPCs infront of SH bunker:
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Unknown video and unknown date. I only have the image.
I do however have the spawns from SoM sniffs, so we all good here.

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East Tower with melee guards, image from blizz pre-release.

Horde entering SH bunker on a fresh new AV, to be meet by tons of melee NPC guards:
https://youtu.be/uYYYbZ51O8A?si=ktseTo4jnDmLmu31&t=1494


Weird flag location of Tower Point.
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Unknown date, but according to patch notes 1.10.0: "Tower Banners in Alterac Valley can no longer be used through walls.".
So perhaps some flags used to be very close to walls before.

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Ice Blood Tower with flag closer to wall. Pre-release patch 1.5.0.

West Frostwolf Tower with flag closer to the wall:
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Dated July 13 2005.

I have the spawns of the old tower flags from wowemu, seems accurate.
However it turns out bunker flags used to be closer to walls too:
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From this video https://streamable.com/0akj7c at 5:05.
Video dated 2005 08 14

But it seems bunker flags were changed sometime early as well, below is a from a dated 2005 08 11 video that still uses the old graveyards but has Icewing bunker with new flag position:
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Old Horde Spirit Guide location in cave. Pre patch 1.9.3, as the patch notes says "The default graveyards in Alterac Valley for each side were moved further up the tunnels away from the battlegroud[sic] exit. This should prevent accidentally leaving the battleground."


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Image showing Snowfall Graveyard between 1.8 and 1.10. Dated 15 Jan 2006 Looks like blizz just moved the pack that stands near bridge in Korrange revenge, to further back when they remade snowfall graveyard in patch 1.8.


Korrak pre 1.8 is currently not in the correct location.
Pre 1.8 it appears he roams mid.

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Image from 21st of june 2005 (patch 1.5.1).

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Image from blizz, probably from pre-release patch 1.5.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7RBF8cYZRs
Video from 27 06 2005.

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Unknown date, but shows him in combat, very close to the location of the previous screenshots.

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Korrak out of combat, from this video: https://archive.org/details/ctz666_-_Backstab_5_Rogue_2005-06-20_4.35


Herbs in Alterac Valley:
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Seen in this video https://streamable.com/0akj7c at 0:20.
Appears to be a Golden Sansam.

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Golden Sansam in Field of Strife, from this video:
https://archive.org/details/ctz666_-_Backstab_5_Rogue_2005-06-20_4.35


Rich Thorium Veins:
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From this video: https://archive.org/details/ctz666_-_Backstab_5_Rogue_2005-06-20_4.35


Fix tower/bunker flag spawns, currently they all share either the horde or alliance spawn, however it should have separate spawns:

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Several harpie spawns missing here, that exist in sniff:
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Missing NPCs in Alliance Lumber Yard:
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Seen in this video: https://archive.org/details/ctz666_-_Backstab_5_Rogue_2005-06-20_4.35


Old Alliance cave Spirit guide location:
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From this video: https://archive.org/details/ctz666_-_Backstab_5_Rogue_2005-06-20_4.35

- Added various missing objects from sniff, that should exist in all versions, but was missing in Korrak's revenge sniffs.
- Deleted duplicate chairs, only chairs found in sniff are left.
- Deleted custom cauldron, replaced with campfire found in sniff.
- Removed custom campfire in front of Drek fortress.
- Removed custom entry Gnomish Toolbox in gameobject_template, was incorrectly used for Steamsaw loot. However a sniffed spawn for Steamsaw already exists.
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Weird object's all around Drek'thar and Vanndar in sniffs:

Dunno if it helps but I have an old screenshot that shows the documents around Vann, I believe around Patch 1.8.3 or 1.8.4. No idea if they spawned on death or were always present though:
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Daribon commented May 30, 2025

moyashiparty

I've realized that they spawn exactly whenever Drek'thar or Vanndar dies.
See the following video: https://www.youtube.com/live/9lBW-Ab1CMs?si=KpLYlc-1GufYXbVR&t=3214

Looks like left over objects before Alterac Valley was released, when it was still a zone and it was possible to do stuff after killing Drek or Vanndar.

Daribon added 8 commits May 31, 2025 23:49
Removed duplicate rams and some spawns that shouldn't exist.
Added one missing ram co2 spawn and three missing frostwolf co2 spawns. Updated the frostwolf at fw gy to use co2.
From classic and SoD sniffs.
Sniffed spawns from original WoWemu DB.
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Daribon commented Jun 29, 2025

Realized I missed SF GY, gonna do that later for 1.12.1 and pre 1.8. I have sniffed spawns for both.

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Daribon commented Jun 30, 2025

Added the fires that should spawn after Vanndar dies.
Video showing how it spawns upon death:
https://youtu.be/D2yDzcer7Ig?si=K4ld0-vpbBAxOELp

Needs script. Oddly enough, no such "death fires" exist on horde side.

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