Cooling Antarctica by increasing snow albedo #302
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What's the problem exactly? That there's too much surface melt and therefore liquid runoff in Antarctica? |
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The goal, as far as I understand it, is to cool the Antartic region
generally, and particualrly the surface near coastal Antarctic ocean, which
may help reduce the ACC oscillations further. This is what the GFDL did,
apparently, to reduce their oscillations.
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therefore liquid runoff in Antarctica?
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A cleaner comparison of overlapping years is now here. I'm waiting on the base case to extend further, as we only have 4 overlapping years right now, but DJF cooling looks similar (below), |
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Final land diags are here, with 12 overlapping years from the test case with higher Antarctic albedo with the default case from #_315. Climatology plots (maps) are for the last 7 years. Thanks to @slevis-lmwg & @cecilehannay for doing / continuing these runs. Albedo changes look as expected (here for DJF), but overall effect on temperatures seems subtle. Maybe looking at other components would be helpful to see if this has any desired impacts on ocean circulation, @gustavo-marques, or sea ice ( @dabail10 @duvivier)?
Note, I won't be at the CESM project meeting this week, but if this capability to support spatially distributed parameter is something we want in the CESM3 simulations let the LWMG know ASAP so we can move it up the SE queue. |
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Thanks, @wwieder. Below is the slide I added for tomorrow. Overall, increasing snow albedo cools the offshore SSTs around Antarctica. The run is too short to determine whether this affects the MOC AABW cell. It will be good to see how the sea ice compares in these runs.
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@slevis-lmwg The albedo changes look fairly modest, on order of 1%. Am I seeing that right and is that what we would expect. From what I have seen, I don't think a new run with this albedo setting is worthwhile. The impact seems quite small. It might be worth trying an experiment with a stronger change to albedo, but overall, I don't think it is very likely that we will pursue this path to solve the problem. |
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@gustavo-marques and @dlawrenncar asked if we could cool Antarctica by increasing land albedo to improve Antarctic deep water formation and reduce Southern Ocean warm biases in recent CESM dev runs.
@slevis-lmwg cloned 315 and started a new run on LMWG-dev that applies spatially distributed land parameters enabled by PR from @swensosc. From discussions with @olyson, we opted to reduce the parameter
xdrdtfrom 5 to 1 for latitudes south of -60. In land only runs we'd expect a 3-5% increase albedo and cool temperatures, but the magnitude of this change in coupled simulations hasn't been evaluated.Preliminary results suggest we are increasing albedo and may be cooling temperatures, but the run is short (just 3 yeras) and not for an overlapping time period (the new run with adjusted albedo was a hybrid from year 100 of the simulation in 315). Full LDF for years 1-3 in the test case vs years 80-99 of the base case is here, with a snapshot of TSA for DJF below
Results seem promising and I've asked @slevis-lmwg to continue this run.
I also wonder if @cecilehannay could continue # 315 for another 10 years so we have a cleaner comparison?
sI'll also need additional diagnostics from other components to help evaluate if this is something we want to enable for CESM development runs.
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